Archive 5 - March 2000 

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Sorry Bosco...MARKS' TONGUE / ROB'S FAT BUTT
PUD'S CHOKIN AT THIS VERY MOMENT ON ROB'S POSTING--ON BOTH THE TONGUE AND THE BUTT (CONCERNING THE MJ COMPARISON), JUST REMEMBER, MJ HAS A MUCH, MUCH BIGGER...
Date=2000-03-03    Puddddddder, 1/900/TS-ELLIOT, Pud@TongueStuck.com, [Msgid=37886]


Completing the sentence

....everything but mouth!
Date=2000-03-03    Jeff Mossler, , embensar@mindspring.com, [Msgid=37971]


Wednesday Favorites

How about a new subject? Where was your favorite cruiser day-site? As a pubescent yut I recall this little round lake which you could swim across and/or walk and tony around!? On one cloudless day I remember falling in lust with some goyish looking girl from Sayner, she was a frenching fool! I had no idea where my cabin was as I was swaping spit beneath a grove of Pine trees? Ahh those were the days!
Date=2000-03-04    P'troff, , nanpeter@megsinet.net, [Msgid=38033]


Crystal Lake

The little round lake was Crystal Lake (I think) and now I know why my counselors took us there so many times.
Date=2000-03-05    Shoppe, , Wdoner@aol.com, [Msgid=38124]


Crusin'

Well, well, well....A new voice from the past has chimed in....THE SHOPPE MAN.....My favorite spot as a youth was Rhinelander...the used clothes store, Von Steele Winery, Paper Mill, etc. As a staff member it was either Eagle River or an early rise to go to Presque Isle Falls.
Date=2000-03-06    JP, , joe.pierce@duncanw.com, [Msgid=38157]


Cruiser Day From Hell

Well, this wasn't my favorite Cruiser Day, but it is my most vivid memory. In 1972 Bob Coy was a part-time senior counselor in Arapaho; one Wednesday he loaded the cabin into a van, drove us two hours to his home in Mosinee, we ate our box lunch on his screened porch, and then he drove us back to camp. My guess is that he must have lost a bet.
Date=2000-03-08    Gazzoo, , dirwuf@aol.com, [Msgid=38495]


Mosinee Hey

Gazzoo...I think I was at the Bob Coy death Cruiser Day...I was in your cabin 2nd session....Agree that Presque Isle Falls was the best.
Date=2000-03-08    Jeff Mossler, , embensar@mindspring.com, [Msgid=38510]


rambling

....got interrupted typing the last message..other memorable Cruiser Days..Ridiculous Day in Rhinelander..one Cruiser Day we stayed in camp when Randy Wynn was our counselor and had a water balloon fight..it was actually pretty fun...another possible topic, favorite bar incidents. I'm starting to feel like Larry King with the stream of consciousness and all the .....'s
Date=2000-03-08    Jeff Mossler, , embensar@mindspring.com, [Msgid=38514]


Hipzoo for Gazzoo

Moss, bar incidents just might carry us all the way to the reunion! Gazzoo, totally forgot about the box lunches! Bob Coy, what a blast from the past...how many people do you know with only six letters in their entire name? My hunch is that he left his only jockstrap (x-s) at his home in Mosinee, and had to shuttle you all down to get it! On a brighter note...

Happy 40th!

Gazzoo! May all your dreams come true and all your Timber memories stay as fresh as a frozen Tombstone! Congratulations and thanks for the great site!
Date=2000-03-09    P'troff, , nanpeter@megsinet.net, [Msgid=38547]


Happy B-day Gazzoo

Moss, I seem to remember some fun you had at Fair Dinkum's. My best memories are of the early Debbie days at the Annex (before the Minocqua-Bat invasion, when a 35-cent Old Style was free). Best Bar Game: "Shooting for Shots"-Toss a coaster from the bar, whatever bottle you hit you had to do a shot from. (I was legal age I swear). I still remember the "Martini" that Branovan mixed for me on one of my birthdays. I think I left a permanent mark out back.
Date=2000-03-09    Red, , gaschatten@comdisco.com, [Msgid=38555]


Shoppe....

SHOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPE!!! SHOPPPPPPPPPPPPE!!! SHOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPE!!!! BRAVO-40, Gazzoo--you're 20 days closer to 40 than I am.
Date=2000-03-09    Pud, 1-800-BRAVISIMO, bravisimo@oomskalalia.net, [Msgid=38594]


Bravo

I didn't realize all you geezers were hitting 40. A 40-year-old Pudster. Oh my God!
Date=2000-03-10    David Raskin, , draskin@uakron.edu, [Msgid=38630]


Pud's not 40!!!!

Pud's more like 65 or 70. That's why he's retired. (Sorry Pud, couldn't resist)
Date=2000-03-10    Red, , gaschatten@comdisco.com, [Msgid=38639]


Tushball.com

I guess I was one of the very few who attended camp all those years and never really got into trampball. I could bounce for about five minutes before my stomach would decide to bounce on it's own tramp. Anyway, a big Bravo for tushball.com, quite a worthy name. I'd also like to add that I'm looking forward to meeting some of you tramp-lords on the tushball court for a serious beating. Unless a volley back to me gets hung up on the wire and fakes me out!
Date=2000-03-11    Bosco, , YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=38716]


Hello, again

Evening, all. It's been too, too long since I've been here. It's good to "hear" familiar voices - many from my young adulthood and many (never forgotten) from my early childhood. Reading each posting brings back too many memories to count. As our lives become more complicated, it's easy to lose contact. Thanks, Gazzoo, for providing this venue - great work! Trivia: Name of only horse to die at Timberlane
Date=2000-03-11    Jim Hiken, , jhiken@home.com, [Msgid=38738]


SHIMMMMMEROOO--

That would be SUCKER? (who was dragged by Lee Campbell's truck from the stables to behind the rifle range in 1972?) Maybe Rocky Stone shoulda' started an archeology class, as Outdoor Mind Expansion was already in full bloom.
Date=2000-03-12    Pud Phillips, 1-888-SUCKER2, Jon460@netscape.net, [Msgid=38746]


Cruiser Day with Red and Corrine

My favorite Cruiser Days were those in camp. Especially lunch time, we would order pizza from Alexanders, and Red and I would make the run in my car. Anyone know why Red never had a car at camp? Rumor has it that he didn't get his license until he was 24. Anyway, we would stop off at the A-head for some BL's and Peter Kaufman fantasys from Corrine. Two hours later, we would stumble back to camp with the pies. One time we even brought a 14 year-old Pete Koro with us. After lunch, I would provoke a water balloon fight among my campers near my car, and after all the fun, I conveniently would find a bucket of soapy water to finish the job. By the way, happy birthday to all the old people...
Date=2000-03-12    Danny Plattner, , dsplattner@aol.com, [Msgid=38751]


Most Unusual Activities

Most unusual activities: Nature Appreciation with Rocky Stone (last seen in quite traditional Orthodox garb - rabbi?), Drama with Lee Glicksman and Gail Justin, Underwater Basket Weaving (also known as Chinese Sleep Clinic) with every one of my counselors during rainy day activity sessions.
Date=2000-03-12    Shimmy, , jhiken@home.com, [Msgid=38855]


Red's Car

Donny, I never had a car because I could always get idiots like you to drive me wherever I wanted to go, and buy me beers once we got there.
Date=2000-03-13    Red, , gaschatten@comdisco.com, [Msgid=38893]


Nature appreciation

I'll never forget Rocky Stone's announcement in the lodge. I miss my frisbee and my frisbee misses me!....etc. Nature appreciation was great for the counselors because they were in a state of mind where one could stare at the clouds for hours if you will....like the minnows in Pallette for those of you who were there!....I wouldn't be opposed to some nature appreciation in August!
Date=2000-03-13    Jeff Mossler, , fungusamongus@minnows.com, [Msgid=38927]


Outdoor Mind Expansion-

Jeffamongus, I got some real beefy cow patties gettin' ripe in this neck of the woods. There some whopper fungusamongi poppin' outta these stanky muthaf**ckers--I'll dry 'em out for Aug. Shimmmmerooo--was Gail Justin anything like Lisa Justin?
Date=2000-03-13    Pudamongus, (309)ZZZOOOM, Jon460@netscape.net, [Msgid=38949]


Dave Mosiman.. Where are you now?

A Crystal Lake memory.. On a day off with a group of Timber-Staff circa 1984, we are at Crystal Lake and have poured down more than a few BLs. Dave Mosiman and I decide to take a walk all the way around the lake. Mose (famous for letting certain things out at the wrong time - let's see who can pick up that reference) turns to me at one point and says, "I don't know if I want to walk all the way around. Let's just go halfway and come back!" I almost drowned laughing my ass off in ankle deep water... Oh Mose.. Where are you now??!
Date=2000-03-14    Jeff Leiken, , jleiken@mentorcounselor.com, [Msgid=38987]


Leiken's Vague Reference

Leiken, was that the guy who, you know, at the Boom-Bay Bar around 1983? If so, I get your reference, because I was there!!! Maybe you should, eventually, clue everybody in.
Date=2000-03-14    David Susman, , dsusman@spitzer-addis.com, [Msgid=39023]


Mose's coffee

Suss, I don't remember you being there, but remember me and Kanto! Uh, oh. I bet this is one of those apochraphal camp memories -- what do I really remember? Who knows. Oh, Leiken's reference: Mose's trip to the Boom Bay resulted in one of my all time favorite morning cheers -- "Hey Mose, how about a little cream in your coffee? Phewt!!!"
Date=2000-03-14    David Raskin, , draskin@uakron.edu, [Msgid=39064]


Boom Bay Bar-Mosimen

Suss, I beleive the year was either 1984 or 1985. The place was THE BOOM BAY BAR. A certain Mr. Mosimen, in a fit of excitement, was dancing on stage with one of the lovely women when upon a moment of true enthusiasm (I think Pud or someone else had announced that this was to be his bachelor party and he had never been to a place of this caliber before) he "spiked on the no bounce". Gazzoo, I apologize. I don't know if the "web authorities" or Mike Cohen allow people to say "spike on the no bounce" on a a web site. I know that such obcenities are typically reserved for the web sites that PUD pays for on a monthly basis. (FYI-Pud keep the picutres coming)
Date=2000-03-14    Danny Buring, 901-818-9882, dburing@tscgtn.com, [Msgid=39066]


Boom Bay (on stage) Bomb

Raskin, I was definitly there! I seem to remember that Ross Cahn was there also. About 10 days ago I was out to lunch with Gazzoo and I recounted that story. I didn't want to go into too much detail as Mrs. Gazzoo was present so, thanks for the details Buring!! Who was that guy anyway??
Date=2000-03-14    David Susman, , lovecampcoach.com, [Msgid=39069]


Tushball Update

Ahh, Tushball...there have been a few changes to the official ATA site. That little retaining wall to the right, gone. I think the wire (sorry Bosco) and the tree to the left are also gone. I didn't make it by Timberlane last summer, but 2 years ago I happened to show up for the all-camp tourney. No, I did not participate as they had already gone thru the line one time. Trivia: Do you know the name of the 16th cabin? Do you know where it's located? The other changes you'll have to see at the reunion. Bosco, a little tip; when you play JP in Tush, just hit it to his right, he'll throw his back out trying to get it and never play again...
Date=2000-03-14    MP, 901.725.6767, mepierce@memphis.edu, [Msgid=39080]


"apochraphal"

What the hell does it mean, Raskin? Maybe that's why you're a Ph.D. and I'm NOT...I had somethin' to do with the recruiting efforts of Mr. Mosiman. Believe it or not, for a couple months, he dated one of Peoria's richest and hottest females. I think she was turned on by his brilliant naivety. After putting in a stint with the U.S. Postal Service, Mr. Mosiman (now married for 15 yrs. with 4 kids) is a school teacher in the Chicago area (he got his training at camp, Coach). Danny, glad ya like the pics; I have a feeling that your brother will enable me to add significantly to mine (sorry, I don't do the pay-sites). B.S. keeps me very well-supplied with cyber-poontang. M-PENIS, nice of you to drop in. I've sent you mail, but have seen (2) similar, but different addresses--I've inserted the "mocha" as in mepierce@mocha.memphis.edu (you gave up the coffee?)
Date=2000-03-14    Pudrick, , jon460@netscape.net, [Msgid=39081]


Mose's big night

Now I'm remembering Mose's big night more clearly -- thanks Suss --because, and this is embarrassing, I didn't know what had happened (was I only 17?). Mose somehow went onstage to dance with the stripper; soon they both started laughing, and Mose sort of put his arm on her shoulder, then got offstage and sat back down at the bar. I asked him, "What happened?" He didn't exactly tell me, but went on to talk about how long it had been since he'd been with a woman.... This night off wasn't during pre-camp was it? I used to drive a busette full of staff out there every once in a while. "Apochraphal," Pud, (where's Stoler when we need him?) is a story everyone tells as if it were true that might actually not be -- I'm sure you've got plenty of those!
Date=2000-03-14    David Raskin, , mallorca@oldstyle.com, [Msgid=39082]


The Mosiman Affair

My recollection of that evening differs slightly from Raskin's. Mosiman somehow got up on stage, one of Tomahawk's finest was dancing around him (I believe she was at least partially clothed), the fine lady started to simulate a sexual act (hand/oral in nature), she made a move for his zipper, Mosiman became flushed, he said something to the lovely local and she started laughing uncontrollably. Thus, a Timberlane legend was born...
Date=2000-03-14    David Susman, , PudFor Prez2000.com, [Msgid=39088]


Zoot Allures

Hey Raskin! Nice Timber-recall on the morning cheers! Now, if only I could remember who you and this Mose guy are?? I don't know, it must have been the minnows er, the roses!
Date=2000-03-14    P'troff, , nanpeter@megsinet.net, [Msgid=39094]


Campaign 2000

SUS my main man! (I caught that)--just send me your money. Did Mose really go spewwwwey on stage that night, or was he just gettin' wood? I did hear some wild rumors.
Date=2000-03-14    President Pud, , jon460@netscape.net, [Msgid=39095]


Moss's Minnows

Moss's Minnows . . . for all those concerned, would be the reason that he broke both his legs while visiting camp one summer (circa 1980) . . and you know, with two broken legs he really had to stay the summer and heal. I think Liz was a good nurse, ay Moss? As for the rest of us that witnessed this tragic accident, I can only remember laughing . . .and chasing Peter's frisbee.
Date=2000-03-15    Rob Schiller, , orange@sunshine.com, [Msgid=39141]


Miiioooookkkaaaaa

The Mose story is true, with the exception of the Jr. counselors (Sussman and Raskin) who claim to have been there. I was not there, and am unsure which 17 year olds were in attendance, however, Mose admitted to me how this "accident" occurred. He was wearing shorts, and Mioka, rubbed up a little to close to him. Needless to say, I didn't lay off the poor guy for the rest of the summer.
Date=2000-03-15    Danny Plattner, 520-750-0464 DO, dsplattner@aol.com, [Msgid=39176]


Back where it all started...

Anyone remember the busettte outing one late night to the Kanto Trout Ranch and the personal encounter with Bill Kanto? I would be curious to hear from those who were in attendance. I can't for the life of me remember who the driver was...
Date=2000-03-16    Frank Amore, , dherlitz@weigratz.grinder.com, [Msgid=39204]


"Frank Amore...Frank Amore...."

Is that you, Gary?
Date=2000-03-16    Pudrick, 1(800)GORCHOFF, jon460@netscape.net, [Msgid=39251]


Up north with Major Richard Bong

Where are all the Canadian canoe trip stories? Those have to be some of the best memories (hazy ones) I have. Does anyone remember the all night trip Peter took to Chicago to save the trip in 1981? I also recall having to paddle a torn canoe about six miles patched with Bit 0' Honey from Dorothy's.
Date=2000-03-18    Paul Rosenblum, , prosenb627@aol, [Msgid=39398]


Cadet Kaufman

After schooling in his hometown, Major Richard Ira "Dick" Bong enlisted as a flying cadet at nearby Wausau, Wisc., May 29, 1941. He took flying training at Tulare and Gardner Fields, Calif, receiving his wings and commission on Jan. 9, 1942. He instructed other pilots at Luke until May, when he went to Hamilton Field, Calif., for combat training in P-38s. Major Bong is the top American ace of all wars with 40 enemy aircraft destroyed in aerial combat. Graphix-Bong Cadet Peter "P'troff" Kaufman was the top Tonee Ace launching over 5 Canadians with unorthodox gear for Quetico combat. Cadet Kaufman was wounded in 1979 by Director Faiwell, and was ultimately captured in December of 1993. He is currently retired and living in Chicago.
Date=2000-03-18    P'troff, , nanpeter@megsinet.net, [Msgid=39408]


Northern Portage--

I'm a 5-time visitor to Sunday Lake. My fondest memories--in 1977, I was on the Fischer/Faiwell excursion and, upon our departure from Sunday Lake, the campsite was left a complete mess due to outdoor mind-expansion activities. We were all standing around Faiwell in a semi-circle, when he proceeded to punch the closest person standing next to him HARD in the stomach (which unexpectedly turned out to be mine), knocking the fricken air outta' me and I keeled. Funniest memory that trip was coming across a very large bullfrog one night, tossing it at Bobbo (GackGoon) Komisar. He beat me so silly that I booted all over his sleeping bag. In 1980, I was fortunate enough to take a contingent out with Maury Hecht (Maury was one helluva cook and, to this day, credit him for my preference of ordering food on the well-done side). Contrary to Joey's belief, Faiwell chose me over Joe in accompanying Maury because he knew that I was more qualified--NOT because I was more indispensable for (10) days.
Date=2000-03-18    Pudrick, (800) NORTHERNS, jon460@netscape.net, [Msgid=39419]


Coupla Canadians Ya Hey

One of my Canadians was headed by the Herbe brothers, talk about a couple of mountain men. I think they threw out the toilet paper before we even left base camp at Roms. Much of the trip was very reminiscent of scenes from the movie Deliverance on the Cahulawassee River
Date=2000-03-19    Bosco, , YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=39458]


Latest Timber-Baby

Harry hasn't had time to post any pictures of his Daughter Molly because he's been too busy breast feeding. But finally, here is the adorable Molly Rose
It's been heard that Harry is in litigation with the O'Brien Waterski Co. for not making infant size bindings.
Date=2000-03-19    Timber-Uncle, , diaperpoop.com, [Msgid=39461]


Boom Bay.. final chapter

Just to finalize the chapter my refernce started.. YES! This is how the Mosiman thing happened. He was my Co-Counselor and came... back to camp and awoke me to tell me the details. He said, "I think she was more suprised than I was!".... Dave Sussman... after all these years the image I have of you in my mind is you standing at flagpole with your pants down at your ankles... smiling proudly like you hadn't a care in the world!
Date=2000-03-19    Jeff Leiken, , jleiken@mentorcounselor.com, [Msgid=39477]


Poacher Lake

Jim Beam Cobbler! Yummy. That was a Rosey and Steve Braun creation we ate on Poacher Lake in Canada -- after sneaking across the boarder for 3 days without a permit. On the way back off this lake, the two canoes we had hidden off the side of the portage, a 2 mile death hike of knee deep mud and skeeters, were missing. Rosey and I canoed to the nearest ranger station to ask about our canoes, which they had found and confiscated. Rosey was fined (finearino!) and we towed them back to the portage where everyone was stuck waiting. Braun was evidently some camper who just showed up to take out Canadians. I think Suss has a back full of sunburn blisters on this particular Canadian. It made double packing a bitch.
Date=2000-03-19    David Raskin, , draskin@uakron.edu, [Msgid=39479]


Boundary Waters

Hey all you Canadian wanabees (Pud and Boz include)! The Faiwell era of Canadians had to be by far the best (am open for arguments)! At any rate, out of the multitude of Canadian classics that we shared beneath crimson lake sunsets, negotiating windswept lake crossings and traversing portages with or without blisters...infested with black flies and mosquitoes the size of humming birds...where two Duluth packs, one canoe (two paddles), two Coleman lanterns, two life preservers, a gas tank, a hog-leg and a BLCA were mandatory...we were the "Timberonians" who blazed the trails for the rest of you Hodags! My personal favorite story was being hooked through my nostril with a fishhook from the casting hand of Johnny Meissner! a close second was watching Gorchoff running from a brown bear (Yeah Boz, now we know)!
Date=2000-03-19    P'troff, , nanpeter@megsinet.net, [Msgid=39482]


Do Bears really......

Our counselors used to tell us many things about bears, and we didn't always believe them.
Well, seeing is believing
Date=2000-03-19    Bosco, , YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=39497]


O Canada

My Canadian memory is a bit of a painful one. Raskin alluded to it above. The first day out, I was in Steve Braun's canoe (who was that guy?). We probably paddled 8 hours that day. The entire time, I was shirtless. Meadow, to this day, still tells me that I had the worst burn he has ever seem. It was so bad that I could not carry a pack on my back the entire trip. I'm sure Raskin, Kanto & Leiken can tell you more as I couldn't see the damage on my backside. It was brutal. I was physically ill. By the way, Raskin, nice recall on the confiscated canoes! That trip really was fun, except for the third degree burns on my back!
Date=2000-03-20    David Susman (with one "s"!), , PudForVP2000, [Msgid=39564]


Portage Puss's

Susssman's recount of his Candian brings back a lot of memories.
The things some guys would do to get out of hauling Duluth packs, third degree burns, broken bones, fish hooks in eyeballs, whatever. Just a bunch of wimps.
Date=2000-03-21    Bosco, , YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=39622]


Archive This

I can't wait for this month to be over just because I'm sick of looking at MARKS' TONGUE & ROB'S FAT BUTT every time this page loads!
Date=2000-03-21    Bosco, , YaHeyDer@aol.com, [Msgid=39623]


O CANADA

One of my best memories of camp is the Canadian trips. One story I remember was when Faiwell and Scott Goodman were in the same canoe and turned over and everything got wet, including their cigarettes. There were three days left in the trip with Faiwell/Goodman being without cigs and purchasing them from campers at a dollar a cig. Peter-I got even for you on my Canadian trip, I put a hook in Meissners shoulder. This summer my daughter is going on an Outward Bound trip for two weeks to the Boundary waters-how jealous am I.
Date=2000-03-21    Howard Segal, , HOWSEG@AOL, [Msgid=39650]


Bubble Wrap

Susman's sunburned back was the grossest thing I'd ever seen. The blisters were like a sheet of bubble wrap, the kind with the big bubbles. I remember another gross thing, now that I think about it. Ross spent a morning walking around one campsite with a woody, explaining that, "Hey. It's natural."
Date=2000-03-21    David Raskin, , BillRom@dalutpak.com, [Msgid=39696]


Pus From Sus

Susman's back was unreal. I too remember it as up there on the nastiest things I've seen. As for a woody incident, I do not recall. It is however interesting that something like that occupies your thoughts, Rashtifarian. The two nights at Poacher were awesome.
Date=2000-03-26    Ross, , ynot_be@proud_of_my_woody.com, [Msgid=40164]


Alpine Valley

Ross! Nice to see you've dropped onto the BOARD. I've got a photo of you, me, Meadow, Sara, and Grinker at the Greyhound stop somewhere north of Stevens Point after we threw an axel in Meadow's car on the way back from the Dead at Alpine Valley. I bet there are some crazy Dead show stories out there! Did a police airplane really clock Meadow for speeding and relay that info to a trooper, who pulled him over?
Date=2000-03-26    David Raskin, , truckin@bootleg.org, [Msgid=40225]


Meadow at Alpine Valley

From the brain damage caused by balloons in the blazing heat of '88, to the Noah's Ark rain and poker games of '89, Dead shows at Alpine Valley will always hold a special place in my heart... My favorite moment came after a particularly pleasing concert as a bunch of us navigated the parking lot. Meadow, clad in just shorts and a nice buzz, had come across a juicy piece of watermelon...suddenly he threw it down and started stomping on it. "Get away!" he screamed, "there are bugs all over it!". We all looked, but couldn't see anything. "Right there, those black things!" he insisted... He was pointing to the seeds.
Date=2000-03-27    Gazzoo, , dirwuf@aol.com, [Msgid=40256]


Meadow, Rom, The Dead, Alpine...

Raskin, once again you bring up a great memory. However, as usual, your facts are ass backwards. The Alpine '86 tour found myself, Harry and Dean in the Salit "Choneymobile". Meadow, Rollie, Rollie's little brother, and some "Ho-dag" were in Rollie's convertible. We rolled into Madison at about 11am; Bill Clark was supposed to be showered and ready to go. We knocked on the door to his apartment, but there was no answer. After 15 minutes of pounding, Rom appeared with his typical expression, a grin which meant "great to see you guys, and who are you guys?" After a few incoherant sentences, he was finally able to explain to us that he was hung over. At that point, he started frantically looking for his jeans from the previous night. He finally found his jeans, after we pointed out they were still on, and started digging through the pockets. Needless to say, he was prepared for the shows. We stopped at a gas station where he purchased, with my money, a fifth of Jack (breakfast of champions). Harry and I were in the backseat, and as we entered the highway, Rom began to boot. With his head out the window, and that same grin on his face, he was in his element. So what does this have to do with Meadow and Rollie getting pulled over? It was the same classic trip, only Rollie and Meadow were in the convertible drinking beer, and talking to tony when, as Raskin accurately points out, a cop in a plane spots the open beer, and radio's down to have them arrested. Because they were supposed to be following us, it took us a few minutes to figure out where they were. We didn't think it would be a good idea to enter the East Troy police station with Rom, so we dropped him off at a bar, and for the 4th time that summer bailed Meadow and Rollie out of jail.
Date=2000-03-28    Danny Plattner, , its2am.com, [Msgid=40309]


Alpine in the old days

Nice to know you youngsters carried on the Alpine tradition long after my ability to get up there!...The best memories I have there were scoring a certain vegetable that was in demand minutes before the show in the parking lot...chilling to Space while staring at stars on the top of the hill, and dancing so hard on that f***ing hill that the fronts of my toes had blisters!....never will forget bringing MP down from his bad trip...I told him to just go to the top of the hill, look at the stars, and it would eventually all make sense....also remember dancing at top of the hill and looking next to me and seeing my brother's college roomate dancing right next to me!....a major zip!
Date=2000-03-29    Jeff Mossler, , garcialives@yahoo.com, [Msgid=40517]


Where is Bosco?

With all this talk about Alpine, the stars, da Dead, and falling over fungi...you would think that the grand poobah of Grateful Dead paraphernalia, the Wavy Gravy of lyrics, the Tennesse Jed of a tye-dye afterworld (Brian P. Schlossberg) would have surfaced by now...reclaiming what is rightfully his...Thus snatching the "dew" away from the Timber youngsters that are zig-zaging behind the wayward antics of Cap'n Tripped, aka Daniel Plattner!
Date=2000-03-31    P'troff, , nanpeter@megsinet.net, [Msgid=40745]


Forced To Respond

I just want to say that I am now as useful to the Dead at Alpine scene as Ronald Reagan is to politics...I can't remember a thing.
I have not 'snatched any Dew' away from any Timber youngsters....the Dew is rightfully theirs, the baton was passed a long time ago. Danny is completely responsible for his own wayward antics....God knows we'll never forget some of them!
As far as the stars, they are not quite as vivid down here as they are in northern Wisconsin and not even close to a Canadian sky....but I can still locate a major constellation faster than anybody! You also mentioned my fungi experiences, to which I respond: "No comment, go ask Joey"
Although I've slowed down a bit in my old age, I did manage to see 8 shows in the last 7 nights (including Merle Saunders, Fathead, Tony Furtado Band, Col Bruce Hampton & The Code Talkers, and Crazy Fingers). Tonight I saw David Gans in Sunrise, then drove to Pompano Beach were he jammed with Crazy Fingers, which is our regular Thursday gig. Got to hang out with him afterwards, ... a very cool dude indeed.
I did manage to capture all these shows (and more) on Digital Hi-8 video. I will try and make them available through my website.
Anyway, I do remember Pete making a few rare appearances at Dead shows and at a JGB show with 'Reese'...Maury Hecht...you out there? Then there was the time at Alpine when I returned to a rain-soaked tent and sleeping bag and stood outside of JP's tent in the rain for 20 minutes, trying to wake him for his car keys so I could dry off and warm up. Then there was the dreaded dustbowl which covered EVERYTHING. Then there was this guy who was completely naked, who ran up the hill and collapsed right in front of my girlfriend and had some sort of seizure. One night long after a show, Harry Stern said he had just spotted Tom 'Trouthouse' Easthouse....we walked for miles and never found the dude. Tom where are you? And also the night we could not find our cars because we were on the wrong side of the hill. The show ended before midnight and we found the cars around 3am.
Ahhhh.......good times.
Date=2000-03-31    Bosco Gravy, , NowLeaveMeAlone.com, [Msgid=40762]